{"id":1730,"date":"2013-08-17T11:33:15","date_gmt":"2013-08-17T08:33:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/?p=1730"},"modified":"2017-05-18T22:19:57","modified_gmt":"2017-05-18T19:19:57","slug":"despre-martorii-lui-jehova","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/?p=1730","title":{"rendered":"Despre martorii Lui Jehova"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Organiza\u021bia \u201eMartorii Lui Jehova\u201d a ap\u0103rut \u00een anul 1884 \u0219i a fost \u00eentemeiat\u0103 de Charles Russel.<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Doctrina acestei organiza\u021bii este diferit\u0103 de marea majoritate a cultelor cre\u0219tine, \u00een elemente esen\u021biale, cum ar fi chiar crezul cre\u0219tin, \u00een care crede at\u00e2t biserica tradi\u021bional\u0103 c\u00e2t \u0219i cea protestant\u0103 sau reformat\u0103.<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\u00cenainte de a intra \u00een problematica diferen\u021belor doctrinare, trebuie precizat faptul c\u0103 aceast\u0103 organiza\u021bie \u00ee\u0219i argumenteaz\u0103 teoriile, prin faptul c\u0103 nu recunosc autenticitatea traducerii Bibliei a\u0219a cum o avem l\u0103sat\u0103 de aproximativ 2000 de ani, permi\u021b\u00e2ndu-\u0219i ca \u00een edi\u021biile bibliilor pe care le au ei, s\u0103 schimbe sau chiar s\u0103 scoat\u0103 versete, pe care ei le consider\u0103 ca fiind eronate. Pur \u0219i simplu, ei sus\u021bin c\u0103 traducerile existente sunt pline de erori, exact \u00een elementele care fac diferen\u021ba \u00eentre doctrina lor \u0219i a celorlalte culte cre\u0219tine.<br \/>\n<!--\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;De altfel, ei nu au \u00eencredere \u00een traducerile care au ap\u0103rut \u00een timpul domniei lui Constantin cel Mare (<a href = \"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Codex_Vaticanus\" target = \"1\">Codex Vaticanus<\/a>, <a href = \"http:\/\/codexsinaiticus.org\/en\/codex\/\" target = \"2\">Codex Sinaiticus<\/a> \u0219i celelalte traduceri care au la baz\u0103 aceste codexuri), deci neav\u00e2nd \u00eencredere \u00een episcopii care au reu\u0219it s\u0103 uneasc\u0103 c\u0103r\u021bile Bibliei \u00een cele dou\u0103 codexuri.\n--><br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Se nasc din start c\u00e2teva \u00eentreb\u0103ri: <\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> <span>Dac\u0103 martorii Lui Jehova a ap\u0103rut ca organiza\u021bie de abia \u00een anul 1884, ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu biserica timp de aproximativ 1500 de ani de pe timpul domniei lui Constantin cel Mare \u00eencoace?<\/span> <\/li>\n<li> <span>Oare nu a fost \u00een stare Dumnezeu s\u0103-\u0219i transmit\u0103 mesajul biblic autentic \u00een tot acest timp?<\/span> <\/li>\n<li><span> \u00cen aceast\u0103 perioad\u0103 nu a fost m\u00e2ntuit nimeni? Biserica a \u00eencetat s\u0103 mai existe pentru o perioad\u0103 de 1500 de ani?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;E greu de crezut a\u0219a ceva, ba mai mult, organiza\u021bia martorilor Lui Jehova \u00ee\u0219i sus\u021bine doctrina pe baza descoperirii unor manuscrise, pe care lumea cre\u0219tin\u0103 \u00een marea ei majoritate nu le cunoa\u0219te.<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Am \u021binut s\u0103 fac aceast\u0103 observa\u021bie, \u00eenainte de a intra \u00een detaliile care fac diferen\u021ba doctrinar\u0103, deoarece, voi argumenta aceste diferen\u021be chiar \u0219i cu manuscrise descoperite \u00eenaintea domniei lui Constantin cel Mare \u0219i care sunt prezentate pe internet \u00een mai multe locuri \u0219i sunt cunoscute de lumea \u0219tiin\u021bific\u0103 \u0219i atestate ca fiind autentice ca vechime, manuscrisele fiind scrise pe papirusuri, material care se folosea \u00een secolele I, II, sau III, de c\u00e2nd dateaz\u0103 aceste papirusuri (anii 100 \u2013 200 pana \u00een anul 300, deci \u00eenaintea domniei lui Constantin cel Mare care a domnit \u00eentre anii  306 &#8211;  337, c\u00e2nd au ap\u0103rut \u0219i codexurile &#8211; primele compila\u021bii ale Bibliei).<br \/> <br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pentru c\u0103 elementele doctrinare care separ\u0103 aceast\u0103 organiza\u021bie de celelalte culte cre\u0219tine sunt destul de multe \u0219i complexe, am sintetizat aspectele diferen\u021biare majore:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Acestea sunt:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span> Martorii Lui Jehova sus\u021bin c\u0103 Isus Hristos nu este Dumnezeu si nu este Fiul Lui Dumnezeu ci sus\u021bin faptul c\u0103 este doar un \u00eenger creat, sau arhanghelul Mihail. \u00cen Biblia cre\u0219tin\u0103 universal\u0103 se sus\u021bine contrariul \u00een versetele:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ioan 1: 14;  <strong>Ioan 20:26-28;<\/strong> Romani 1:3-4; Romani 1: 8-9;  2Petru 1:1<br \/>\nMAI MULT CHIAR, AVEM \u0218I <strong>Ioan 1:1<\/strong> care este con\u021binut de <strong>\u201ePapyrus 66\u201d<\/strong>, ap\u0103rut \u00eentre anii 125-160 (perioada persecu\u021biei cre\u0219tine \u0219i \u00eenaintea domniei lui Constantin cel Mare) potrivit wikipedia: <a href =\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Papyrus_66\" target = \"4\">Papyrus 66<\/a>, iar acest verset, martorii Lui Jehova l-au schimbat f\u0103r\u0103 niciun temei \u00een edi\u021biile bibliilor lor. (<a href = \"http:\/\/carm.org\/manuscript-evidence\" target = \"5\"> Alte referin\u021be<\/a>)<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span> Martorii Lui Jehova sus\u021bin c\u0103 Isus Hristos nu a \u00eenviat din morti \u00een trup ci ar fi \u00eenviat doar \u00een Duh. \u00cen Biblia cre\u0219tin\u0103 universal\u0103 se sus\u021bine contrariul \u00een versetele:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Luca 24:39<\/strong>;  Ioan 2:19-21;  <strong>Ioan 20:26-28<\/strong>; <strong>1Corinteni 15: 14<\/strong>.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span> Martorii Lui Jehova  sus\u021bin c\u0103 Duhul Sf\u00e2nt nu este Dumnezeu ci este o for\u021b\u0103 impersonal\u0103. \u00cen Biblia cre\u0219tin\u0103 universal\u0103 se sus\u021bine contrariul \u00een versetele:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Faptele Apostolilor 5: 3-4;  <strong>Matei 28:19<\/strong>; <strong>2Corinteni 3: 17-18<\/strong>; Efeseni 4:30;<br \/>\nMAI MULT CHIAR, AVEM \u0218I <strong>Romani 8:26-27<\/strong>  care este con\u021binut de <strong>\u201ePapyrus 27\u201d<\/strong> ap\u0103rut \u00eentre anii 175-225 (perioada persecu\u021biei cre\u0219tine \u0219i \u00eenaintea domniei lui Constantin cel Mare) &#8211; Referin\u021be: <a href = \"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/noultestamenttexteanticeonline\/papirus-al-bibliei-p27-romani-cap-8-12-22-cap-8-v24-27-cap-8-v33-39-cap-9-v1-3-cap9-v5-9poxy1355-iii\" target = \"6\">Papirus al Bibliei p27<\/a>  \u0219i wikipedia: <a href = \"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Papyrus_27\" target = \"7\">Papyrus 27<\/a>, versete care explic\u0103 faptul c\u0103 Duhul Sf\u00e2nt nu este o for\u021b\u0103 impersonal\u0103 ci este Dumnezeu, deoarece Duhul Sf\u00e2nt are n\u0103zuin\u021b\u0103, adic\u0103 are dorin\u021b\u0103 puternic\u0103 sau aspira\u021bie, acestea fiind doar atributele unei persoane inteligente sau ra\u021bionale.<\/span><\/li>\n<li> <span>Martorii Lui Jehova  sus\u021bin c\u0103 m\u00e2ntuirea se c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 prin merit sau prin eforturi proprii, pe c\u00e2nd Biblia cre\u0219tin\u0103 universal\u0103 sus\u021bine c\u0103 m\u00e2ntuirea este primit\u0103 doar \u00een dar de la Dumnezeu, potrivit:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Efeseni 2:8-9<\/strong>;  Romani 4:1-4;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span> Martorii Lui Jehova  sus\u021bin c\u0103 cei nem\u00e2ntui\u021bi nu vor fi pedepsi\u021bi ve\u0219nic, ci vor disp\u0103rea ca entit\u0103\u021bi odat\u0103 pentru totdeauna dup\u0103 moarte. \u00cen Biblia cre\u0219tin\u0103 universal\u0103 se sus\u021bine contrariul \u00een versetele:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Matei 25:41,46<\/strong>; <strong>Matei 18:8<\/strong>;  <strong>2Tesaloniceni 1:8-9<\/strong>;<br \/> <br \/>\nMAI MULT CHIAR, AVEM \u0218I <strong>Apocalipsa 14:10-11<\/strong>  care este con\u021binut de <strong>\u201ePapyrus 115\u201d<\/strong> (Sursa wikipwdia: <a href = \"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Papyrus_115\" target = \"8\">Papyrus 115<\/a>) \u0219i dateaz\u0103 din secolul al II -lea (\u00eentre anul 100 \u0219i anul 200 perioada persecu\u021biei cre\u0219tine \u0219i \u00eenaintea domniei lui Constantin cel Mare) descoperit \u00eempreun\u0103 cu alte papirusuri \u00een localitatea Oxyrhynchus, Egypt. Cei ce vor s\u0103 afle mai multe despre aceste papirusuri le pot studia \u00een urm\u0103toare carte: &#8220;Oxyrhynchus Papyri&#8221; &#8211; editat\u0103 de Bernard P. Grenfell and Arthur S. Hunt (1898), din urm\u0103torul link: <a href = \"http:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/TheOxyrhynchusPapyrieditedWithTranslationsAndNotesByBernardP\/oxyrhynchus_papyri_v2_Grenfell#page\/n5\/mode\/2up\" target = \"9\">Oxyrhynchus Papyri<\/a> <\/span><\/li>\n<li><span> Martorii Lui Jehova  sus\u021bin c\u0103 dup\u0103 moarte omul piere definitiv neg\u00e2nd existen\u021ba sufletului omului care este etern dup\u0103 moarte.<br \/>\nBiblia ne \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 cu claritate c\u0103 duhul (sufletul) omului continu\u0103 s\u0103 aib\u0103 o existen\u021b\u0103 con\u0219tient\u0103, dup\u0103 moarte.<br \/>\n\u00cen Biblia cre\u0219tin\u0103 universal\u0103 se sus\u021bine acest lucru \u00een versetele:<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>2Corinteni 5:8;  Filipeni 1:23-24;  Apocalipsa 6:9-11<\/strong><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;V\u0103 las\u0103m pe dumneavoastr\u0103 s\u0103 trage\u021bi concluziile privitoare la aceast\u0103 organiza\u021bie, dar nu \u00eenainte de a mai pune dou\u0103 \u00eentrebari: <\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span>C\u00e2t\u0103 \u00eencredere po\u021bi avea \u00eentr-o biseric\u0103, sau organiza\u021bie care \u00ee\u0219i face propria doctrin\u0103 sau reguli, f\u0103r\u0103 un fundament arheologic sau istoric solid?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span>Mai exist\u0103 posibilitatea s\u0103 comba\u021bi anumite reguli neav\u00e2nd niciun izvor scris autentic ca reper, atunci c\u00e2nd liderii organiza\u021biei vor s\u0103 le schimbe f\u0103r\u0103 vreun temei istoric sau etic, deoarece \u00een lumea cre\u0219tin\u0103, izvorul scris autentic, respectiv Biblia, este atestat\u0103 de manuscrise originale de aproape 2000 de ani vechime?<\/span><\/li>\n<p><!--\n\n\n<li><span> Daca codexurile (Codex Sinaiticus si Codex Vaticanus) contin in mod intentionat greseli in chestiuni doctrinare fundamentale, atunci de ce manuscrisele descoperite pe papirusuri pastreaza cu acuratete acelasi inteles semantic al traducerilor din codexuri?\n-->\n<\/ol>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Organiza\u021bia \u201eMartorii Lui Jehova\u201d a ap\u0103rut \u00een anul 1884 \u0219i a fost \u00eentemeiat\u0103 de Charles Russel. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Doctrina acestei organiza\u021bii este diferit\u0103 de marea majoritate a cultelor cre\u0219tine, \u00een elemente esen\u021biale, cum ar fi chiar crezul cre\u0219tin, \u00een care crede at\u00e2t &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/?p=1730\">Continu\u0103 s\u0103 cite\u0219ti <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1730","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tineret"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1730","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1730"}],"version-history":[{"count":28,"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1730\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2248,"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1730\/revisions\/2248"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1730"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1730"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.harulmoldovaveche.ro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1730"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}